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I ask people to refrain from pulling numbers out of their ass. It's detrimental to any argument/discussion, and if you actually know the actual numbers, references are a must. And as always. everyone are entitled to complain, that's a fact of life in the free world. In your words JohnSins, playing for free is like a trial. And if they're actually gonna invest, maybe there are things they wanna voice on? A game is made for the consumer, so it'd be weird not to let the community voice their opinions.

DISCLAIMER! This is not about a specific person, this is about all of us as a collective community.
No one is above anyone else on this forum. Stop acting like your opinions and values are worth more than others. And stop acting like you are right and they are wrong in a topic that is ambiguous at best. And please! Most important of all! Don't be a condescending jerk... We're all adults, or at least I hope so. If we all just take our chill pills, perhaps we can all untwist out panties and hold normal and respectful discussions?

And as a counter argument, I'd like to point out that the current payment model for mmo games, is f2p or b2p. Doesn't mean everyone has to do that, but that's what people are used to now, for better or worse.

I know some app developers and I consider this game a freemium.

Freemium games need both free and premium users. Free users are an asset for developers: they make the game "social", they interact with premiums, bring other users and some of them will become premium (and they will bring other users and so on). Usually in these games the percentage of premium is low (reference) but most of them have a lot of ads.


Also, MnF devs probably are glad about videos on the internet because it's free advertising (like a gameplay)

For Emmie: I re-wrote this message trying to not sound like a condescending jerk and I moved a part to Suggestions. I'm in marketing and I just (second-handily) know some of these things and I wanted to write them

(12-22-2016, 09:50 PM)Blck Wrote: [ -> ]Firstly, waiting about year for FF pose is really annoying but i can be paitient
Secondly , I do not judge them too hard
Thirdly I am not saying that they are not making anything
I have got question how long do you play this game?
Do u know since when they promised us to imply the casino in this game?

1.I didn't say that you said they weren't making anything
2.Saying the place is boring and its useless without thinking of its perks for others is infact JUDGING too hard
3.Its just slots so far and its probably for the players who don't have much money  and want to  take a chance and get more
4.I've been playing for about 4 months and all i hear is complaining for most of the players and why should it matter to you
5.whether waiting 1 day, 1 month, or 1 year. You get new poses when they can get them made patience is a virtue annoying or not
6.There were six updates so far this month whether you like them or not is your choice
7.they promised a Casino now you got it if you don't like it you can wait longer for another update
8.If you don't like what I'm telling you TOUGH
9.Just leave it at that

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(12-23-2016, 12:08 PM)JohnSins Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know why people think free users are entitled to anything... They aren't paying for any services, but expect devs to flesh out updates every week. Maybe if 90 percent of the players (instead of around 30) were premium and this game was making a whole lot of money, then maybe I would expect updates every week. Being a free member should be like a trial run; these devs are too nice for even allowing free members to access poses that they didn't pay for or even allow videos of the poses to be put on websites where you can watch for free... If you don't pay, stop complaining or don't play...

Not everyone on here owns a credit card to pay for premiums
And free players add just as much to the game as premiums
so lets just say what you said happens and the free players who "complain" a massive number of the player base would drop
And the way your talking you making it out to be like free players don't even deserve to play at all
And whats wrong with talking about whats fair for free players apparently all of my friends who are premium players believe that free players are a little under handed
Its a good way to let the devs know that the free players have some problems and that they could possibly find a way to fix it

You guys, there is a difference between constructive criticism and complaining. I don't mind when free players voice their opinions, however when it turns into malice, it's another story. I also understand the concept of freemium games (I watched that one southpark episode, so now I am an expert), but there is an ends to the means, as in the devs just want to make money, and the only way they can make money is for people to buy premium. As for the so called "Ads" on pornhub, I would consider it an "Ad" if it was just a couple of videos, but it's not. Every pose is there, and it seems that people are watching those vids instead of paying to get the poses...Anyways my little rant is over, I don't hate free users, I have found more skilled Rpers to be free than premium.
For Emmie: I wasn't trying to sound spiteful, I suppose I should work on my tone a bit. In my head I sound like Bob Ross, so I can't tell if I am exuding an aggressive tone. As for that number that you assumed I pulled out of my ass, it was from another mod, I will even try to find it.... :p

(12-23-2016, 09:09 PM)UriaSaumreah Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-22-2016, 09:50 PM)Blck Wrote: [ -> ]Firstly, waiting about year for FF pose is really annoying but i can be paitient
Secondly , I do not judge them too hard
Thirdly I am not saying that they are not making anything
I have got question how long do you play this game?
Do u know since when they promised us to imply the casino in this game?

1.I didn't say that you said they weren't making anything
2.Saying the place is boring and its useless without thinking of its perks for others is infact JUDGING too hard
3.Its just slots so far and its probably for the players who don't have much money  and want to  take a chance and get more
4.I've been playing for about 4 months and all i hear is complaining for most of the players and why should it matter to you
5.whether waiting 1 day, 1 month, or 1 year. You get new poses when they can get them made patience is a virtue annoying or not
6.There were six updates so far this month whether you like them or not is your choice
7.they promised a Casino now you got it if you don't like it you can wait longer for another update
8.If you don't like what I'm telling you TOUGH
9.Just leave it at that

Anserw to question 2 , I saw beneficial sides of casino update (it is on page 65)

(12-22-2016, 10:33 PM)Blck Wrote: [ -> ]Well and all the time they have been complaining about pose ... but i agree that area is nice

So dont judge me so "harsh" my friend

With all the respect that I have for the devs and mods, I really think this is not a complete game and that's why most of the community ask for updates. I propose that devs stablish a game idea, cuz I do not see it or Maybe I'm so dumb to not realize that the idea is "Meet n' Fuck"? In that case, I can't understand why they added the new slots cuz you can't meet or fuck. xD It would have been different if they had added strip poker, in this case, its interactive, social, and sexual for our eyes" (If you know what I mean ).

Do you get my point of view guys? I mean, Ok maybe strip poker is TOO hard to acomplish, its alright, but move your game towards an idea. If you will create more and more content just to satisfy people's wishes, this game will never be complete.

I can put more examples:

-The Baths, nice area, good to meet people, is hot to see everyone naked; but there is no sex, so nothing to do. That causes an abandonment of the area.

This is the baths today in Beaver Bash with full server:



-The Bar Vodka, nice area, good to meet people, sexy strippers, interactive dance feature. Good 

Thi is the Bar Vodka today in Big Bang with full server:


(Hey, they are "meeting". That's a good sign).

These are two places that are overcrowded. But most of users don't talk and others are afk. They are not "playing", they are not meeting or fucking.



In conclusion, to reduce complaints for lack of content, focus on an "idea". Maybe is not "Meet n' Fuck", I hope someone else could correct me. Once done that, create content; but make your users play. 

Pls, don't say that we have to be grateful for everything that the devs create. This is their business and if they wanna be succesful or whatever, they have to start to taking this MMO as a business. When someone says "No, this is a SECONDARY project", I really wanna cry cuz you are telling to your users that don't expect too much of this game. In other words: "Don't waste money here". I really wish the best for you guys, I love this game and I hope to see soon a "Complete Game". 

Peace!

Again, I just wanna say, I'm not coming at anyone, it was more a go at the current situation of the thread where I've seen it get much more "hostile" than I think a discussion on updates should have to be! I merely wanted to remind people to behave and respect eachother, and that goes both ways. So really, no one has to feel personally hit by this, merely take it as a request that we all calm ourselves and go back to discussing. If you felt as if I was only talking to you JohnSins, I appologise, cause that was not my intention, you just happened to be the post before me, and I just happened to comment on something you said.

I fully agree that constructive criticism is a lot better than just moaning about stuff, solutions and ideas are what we need people! And I think I might've said this before in another thread as well. ^^

I don't want people to feel as if they have to tip toe btw, cause that was not the idea. Just that we remember that we're all different people who like different things, and different isn't always bad, even if we disagree.

Also wanna add since Anghelo managed to sneak a post in before me, that I very much approve of this one quote of his! "Pls, don't say that we have to be grateful for everything that the devs create." These are words of wisdom, we all want different things, but no one should be less valued. Perhaps some ideas or wishes are harder to implement, but that doesn't mean they can't be voiced at least. Anyways, it's late, I'm tired and it's christmas tomorrow! Merry christmas to you all! ^^

(12-23-2016, 11:16 PM)Anghelo Wrote: [ -> ]I can put more examples:
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Well, people are idle but probably they are chatting (via PM) with each other. I personally use Wild West and Beach when I want to meet new people and the others when I want a more intimate thing. And then we RP via PM or we go to the room so, we are Meeting and Fucking

(12-23-2016, 11:16 PM)Anghelo Wrote: [ -> ]Pls, don't say that we have to be grateful for everything that the devs create. This is their business and if they wanna be succesful or whatever, they have to start to taking this MMO as a business. When someone says "No, this is a SECONDARY project", I really wanna cry cuz you are telling to your users that don't expect too much of this game. In other words: "Don't waste money here"

I 100% agree with you here!

(12-24-2016, 10:07 AM)ThunderD Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-23-2016, 11:16 PM)Anghelo Wrote: [ -> ]Pls, don't say that we have to be grateful for everything that the devs create. This is their business and if they wanna be succesful or whatever, they have to start to taking this MMO as a business. When someone says "No, this is a SECONDARY project", I really wanna cry cuz you are telling to your users that don't expect too much of this game. In other words: "Don't waste money here"

I 100% agree with you here!

Same here ^.^

Well, this is my first post here but I'll try my best to help.

I liked the update of casino with slot machine and I have some hype for the next games. There's some potential like poker, blackjack, roulette or even private rooms for more. Example: Poker with girls dancing in a pole.

About other locations I would like to see more. NPC interaction or more mini-games. Also, the gnome guy/girl is there teasing everyone.

I can say this game seems incomplete but development potential high if things are done correctly. More updates (even small changes something that I'll try to talk in the other thread) and a balance between free and premium users are what MNF needs.
Free users also need to understand the difference between premium users. The money that it's spent needs to be worth. However, "wasting" time in the game also needs to be worthy for everyone (free and premium). I don't know who's in the team but for what I see they could need help, specially if this is like a secundary project which I perfectly understand.

Hope this help the discussion here and obviously the devs.