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RE: Suggestions Mega Thread - i_am_new_here - 04-11-2016
(04-10-2016, 05:22 PM)DarkXtecy Wrote: ok from your view of (designing game for fun) i can understand it very well....but then I am intrested in knowing how you manage to maintain it if the game is still new and income is still not at the standard level...do you have any games that you have updated on any server or platform?...do share some of your game links...maybe I can understand more from you work...sorry cant mention the names of the game....(even my name is not real bcs i dont want to use my real one here)
I read through your strategy and I still have doubts...for one...like I mentioned, what guarantee is there if a non premium get a (limited time) of premium benefit, that he/she will end up buying premium later on in game...or even tell other friends for that matter....if you can guarantee this 100% then yes this is a point to be consider....if I were to taste some premium ways for limited time, then yes i would enjoy it, but after the time is over, i would carry on as non premium, this way I got the taste of both, but the concept of buying premium was a fail....I agree on the giving gifts part...but this kind of ides are still new, coz like for a game like this, what possible gifts can you give on every log in...ill be honest I have no idea of market strategy let alone how to attract the right kind f costumers...but if the devs idea is mainly to focus on premiums first, then I cant blame them, from my view it seems right to me....the premiums ar so far keeping the game alive and I am getting the benefit from it...even if its little bit.
I feel this game is a new concept of it own, which might require ideas that are very different compared to normal other games we play...i mean i could be wrong, its just I haven't seen any other game similar to this...things like 3dxchat and IMVU are also meet and fuck kind of game but they are on a different level I believe, I dont know how they do it, but as far as I know i haven't come across any other game similar to this one.
i agree with u ....but my strategy is simply based on popularity and i can give u 100% assurance that if u get users in millions then there is high possibility of 1% of 1 million buying prem ....but since most good stuff is for prem i can bet more than 1% will buy prem .......so 1 prem for 1 month is 9$ so 1 % of 1 million = 1000000/100=10000 peoples so money u get 1 month is 10000x9=90000$ ....IS THIS NOT ENOUGH TO RUN A SITE? ....I CAN RUN MORE THAN 10 NON PORN SITES WITH THAT MONEY...
so focus on popularity .....there is a saying " do your work dont think about outcome " i can change it like " do the updating and popularize the site dont think about money" as i mentioned above with just 1% u get enough money if u popularize in a good way .....and first thing to popularize this site is more updates ......with present updates (bunny ears ,cat ears....lmao (idiot updates..sorry if i hurt dev but truth always is bitter)) u wont get more people .....
update something really cool like -
bathroom sex
watch porn in tv with ur partner
threesome
etc.
i can guarantee that more people = more money strategy is good for long run of a site .....less people more money is a tension situation where if few stop buying prem whole economy of the site dies.
and for the person who sent message after DarkXtecy (misslanni i guess):
if updates for prem and non prem are equal its not good .....try to make updates like 10 simple updates for non prem and 2 great or meaga great updates for prem ....it will work ...believe me . AND DEV ARE PREM ORIENTED THATS WHY ALL IN FORUM ....and ask everyone in game who havnt logged in in forum u will get ur answer
thanks for replying for my 2nd post again....
who all agree with me ?
i am sure all new guys and my 57 friends in game who not in forum agree with me .....
and one doubt ....if u say good things about developers we get reputation ? i see many with really good reputation ... lol
(dont take this line seriously)
RE: Suggestions Mega Thread - Anallee - 04-11-2016
(04-10-2016, 09:40 PM)misslanni Wrote: I disagree with the concept that the developers are moving more towards the premium members...it's just not consistent with what I've seen in the updates and what I've experienced by being both a premium member and a reg. player for a while. I'd say this is the most generous game I've seen of this kind...most sex mmo or porn related websites require purchase before you even get to see anything and on this game? You go have 80 bangs around the world without spending a single penny. What more do people want!?
Dark mentioned IMVU, this game for example has no free sexual material for new commers, not like MNF does. You log in this game and you need to invest money (or a truck load of time) to get to a point where you can enjoy yourself sexually with someone else.
What happens when you log into MNF? If you are girl, you'll likely get to banggity bang pretty fast and if you're a guy you might have to do much more leg work or just go to the brothel, but the options are there for you without the need for you to drop $$$ on prem membership.
Not all projects and games are the same and they can't all be treated with the same marketing concept. Your marketing strategy is interesting I just don't see how it would attract more people to buy premium...it would just attract more people and that doesn't necessarily translates to $$$ (or popularity).
On your concept of prizes, I would actually like to see them give people some sort of item or outfit whenever you reach a new level...it'd be an interesting thing to see but I don't think 1-hr of premium is a reasonable prize for getting to a new level. If you got a new level you most likely did that enjoying yourself with someone else...that's a prize in itself.
To me, they need to focus on making Premium much more desirable. Like I've said before: make items cheaper for them, areas exclusive for them, perhaps the concept of prizes when you level and you're premium, or a fortune wheel mini-game where you might earn an in-game item or cash, premium emoticons, etc)
The free players would still need incentives yes and I think they're getting them. I stand by my POV that the game is pretty balanced when it comes to free vs premium content. And I hope that they continue releasing updates in this manner.
Wonderfully explained misslanni.
RE: Suggestions Mega Thread - DarkXtecy - 04-11-2016
ok...reading you comment now...definitely confirms you are not who you say you are...i like your first post better because it was more civil and thought worthy....but now..your last one...is just like a day dream wishing it to be reality.
No1. if you say, you are also a game developer, then like any game developer they would definitely wish to advertise it,and yes...this is not a place for advertising...but you could have had just PM me the link...if you really are who you say you are. Thus "sorry cant mention the names of the game" makes no sense to me...you dont even give a valid reason..and for this "(even my name is not real bcs i dont want to use my real one here)"..well duh!!...even my name is not real...so not sure why you have to mention that.
No2. you talk about million users...but perhaps you might want to "really read" the previous comments and not just over look after reading the first few words (that is if you even bother to read the first few words)....however here is a repeat...this game is still new, and as far as the counter shows...there is about 200k users...yes...it hast even reach half million yet..which mean...the game is still so very new that your idea of million users just dosent even fit in the idea box.
No3. as for updates...well this is one reason that convinces me that you are definitely not a game developer because every one know...even those that dont make games..that coding and animation...takes more then months...let alone trying to solve out the bugs and other programming issues...and from your point of view you expect the dave should update some kind of items and sex poses every few days...well...flash news...this is not an imagination world were we can magically conjure what we want...things take time and effort to build up.
No4. as for devs in forum....well you got that wrong...the devs are not in forum...its just us normal players from the game...and yes good for you and your team of 57 supporters, in the mean time lets just keep this thread where we can input ideas and not debate about how the game should really work...well ok you can always imagine about it but yeah.
hope you have a great day...if not...ah well, thats life.
RE: Suggestions Mega Thread - Anallee - 04-11-2016
(04-11-2016, 04:34 PM)i_am_new_here Wrote:(04-10-2016, 05:22 PM)DarkXtecy Wrote: ok from your view of (designing game for fun) i can understand it very well....but then I am intrested in knowing how you manage to maintain it if the game is still new and income is still not at the standard level...do you have any games that you have updated on any server or platform?...do share some of your game links...maybe I can understand more from you work...sorry cant mention the names of the game....(even my name is not real bcs i dont want to use my real one here)
I read through your strategy and I still have doubts...for one...like I mentioned, what guarantee is there if a non premium get a (limited time) of premium benefit, that he/she will end up buying premium later on in game...or even tell other friends for that matter....if you can guarantee this 100% then yes this is a point to be consider....if I were to taste some premium ways for limited time, then yes i would enjoy it, but after the time is over, i would carry on as non premium, this way I got the taste of both, but the concept of buying premium was a fail....I agree on the giving gifts part...but this kind of ides are still new, coz like for a game like this, what possible gifts can you give on every log in...ill be honest I have no idea of market strategy let alone how to attract the right kind f costumers...but if the devs idea is mainly to focus on premiums first, then I cant blame them, from my view it seems right to me....the premiums ar so far keeping the game alive and I am getting the benefit from it...even if its little bit.
I feel this game is a new concept of it own, which might require ideas that are very different compared to normal other games we play...i mean i could be wrong, its just I haven't seen any other game similar to this...things like 3dxchat and IMVU are also meet and fuck kind of game but they are on a different level I believe, I dont know how they do it, but as far as I know i haven't come across any other game similar to this one.
i agree with u ....but my strategy is simply based on popularity and i can give u 100% assurance that if u get users in millions then there is high possibility of 1% of 1 million buying prem ....but since most good stuff is for prem i can bet more than 1% will buy prem .......so 1 prem for 1 month is 9$ so 1 % of 1 million = 1000000/100=10000 peoples so money u get 1 month is 10000x9=90000$ ....IS THIS NOT ENOUGH TO RUN A SITE? ....I CAN RUN MORE THAN 10 NON PORN SITES WITH THAT MONEY...
so focus on popularity .....there is a saying " do your work dont think about outcome " i can change it like " do the updating and popularize the site dont think about money" as i mentioned above with just 1% u get enough money if u popularize in a good way .....and first thing to popularize this site is more updates ......with present updates (bunny ears ,cat ears....lmao (idiot updates..sorry if i hurt dev but truth always is bitter)) u wont get more people .....
update something really cool like -
bathroom sex
watch porn in tv with ur partner
threesome
etc.
i can guarantee that more people = more money strategy is good for long run of a site .....less people more money is a tension situation where if few stop buying prem whole economy of the site dies.
and for the person who sent message after DarkXtecy (misslanni i guess):
if updates for prem and non prem are equal its not good .....try to make updates like 10 simple updates for non prem and 2 great or meaga great updates for prem ....it will work ...believe me . AND DEV ARE PREM ORIENTED THATS WHY ALL IN FORUM ....and ask everyone in game who havnt logged in in forum u will get ur answer
thanks for replying for my 2nd post again....
who all agree with me ?
i am sure all new guys and my 57 friends in game who not in forum agree with me .....
and one doubt ....if u say good things about developers we get reputation ? i see many with really good reputation ... lol
Hey!, I'm not a Dev and I'm here. Perhaps you're not as right as you presume to be.
RE: Suggestions Mega Thread - DarkXtecy - 04-11-2016
point proven right there on the post above me XD...thx hun
RE: Suggestions Mega Thread - Sharp - 04-11-2016
@ i_am_new_here
(I am posting this as a user/player, not as a mod)
I'm going to just jump in here and say your entire post is total bollocks. How about people get their ass on the forum and actually attempt to have their say, rather than sitting around and just assuming their every want and desire is going to be catered for?
And this game is a fucking BUSINESS!! The devs want to make money. They aren't going to just give stuff out for free, because then people won't buy premium. As has been said, the fact that this game is available at all to free users, and not just on a trial basis, is a huge thing. The devs need to offer incentives for users to go premium, and by making the best stuff available to them only, they succeed.
And as for the prems being on the forum; that's because they actually give a enough of a fuck about the game.
And where the fuck are you getting the idea for one million users? Seriously. If you want to try and make a point and appear like you have any clue what you are talking about, try and stay within the realms of realism and possibility.
RE: Suggestions Mega Thread - Vik - 04-11-2016
Why can not prem girls buy swim wear, but not prem guys not?
RE: Suggestions Mega Thread - Anallee - 04-11-2016
(04-11-2016, 10:53 PM)DarkXtecy Wrote: point proven right there on the post above me XD...thx hun
The first victory for our "team"!, lol Anytime
RE: Suggestions Mega Thread - Bansai - 04-12-2016
I've taken a look on the discussion regarding the suggestions being made, and....looks like its more of a demand than suggestion.
As being mentioned here, this game is still new, very new, and devs are trying to give more incentive for the players to go premium by giving out more content. The idea that being mentioned by the said person (i_am_new_here) is literally defeating the purpose of going premium, cause you get all the premium stuffs, only double, triple the costs. Thus, you only need to grind up money and voila, you get all the premium features (You'll be surprised how rich some of the players in here, despite being new
)Also, some of the suggestions (like hitting people and stuff), first of all: Why? Why do you wanna do that in the first place? I can take the part where you can train and get buffier/sexier as you train and get soggier as you recline, but hitting people? *Buzz sound* Nope!
Next comes the sex poses, of course there's gonna be more to that (Do you actually believe they're gonna let the game stuck with 2-5 poses?! That's barely covers a page in the Kama Sutra guide
)All in all, I can only advice you to sit back, hang out with people in the game, and give the game some time. You're really missing out if you're only pondering on what's lacking and forgot to interact with people that played this game *Smiles*
RE: Suggestions Mega Thread - Wanderlust - 04-12-2016
@ i_am_new_here
I understand not wanting to say what games you're working on, but you don't really sound like a developer, at least not one that knows what he's talking about.
Getting millions of users to play a porn game is ludicrous. League of Legends for instance has perhaps 60 million uses and it's one of the most popular "normal" games out there. By comparison, mnfclub's quarter of a million users is very impressive, but we should consider many of these are probably alts.
Your math is way off, because you never take into consideration that the market for porn games can get saturated. Mnfclub is the only porn I currently subscribe, apart from funding a couple of patreons, and to most people, the non prem content and the people they know in game is more than enough for them.
In my opinion, the way to have even more prem hers is actually to focus more on prem content. But considering that it's a risky gamble, I can understand things staying the same.
I apologize for just joining in the middle of a discussion without even a proper introduction.