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Economy balance discussion
(07-13-2018, 07:38 PM)Zephyr Wrote: Hi Charlie, good to have your input.

I disagree about there being an economy problem but there are many of both opinions.

There is a lot of dead money and it is not surprising that it rests mostly with prems.  How does this unspendable money affect economy?  Have not seen an explanation.

You talk about currency flow; is that between players or into game?  Making it harder to replace game money surely reduces flow between players.

Mnf will not want to make prem less worthwhile;  they want to sell codes.  Side issue but I think non-prems could have more; older poses or clothes, maybe as a level reward.

How does this side banner work?  Is it that mnf gets advertising revenue?

I know some games have double currencies but what are suggesting?  We have exp and $

I did not support exchanging exp for $ in a poll some time ago;  I now think that might have been a good idea.
 Hey Zephyr Smile

I'm starting with the side banner ad point, basically yes, MnF gets money for advertising other games/pages, only non-prems will see this ads, so that way non-prems do contribute with just playing the game.

With the double currency thing, exp shouldn't be a currency at all, exp in most games is a measure to increase your level and maybe get skill points when you level up, and that skill point may be other "currency", exp should remain just like a measurement of your level, not like some type of money. It's not efficient that to get a new pose you have to spend exp, that it just takes away the goal to reach a higher level. Back to the double currency thing, my point was to make this exp issue disappear, for example, giving "x amount of gold coins" (the new currency) for leveling up, and having daily rewars giving x amount of gold coins for day 5 login, day 10, etc. And with this gold coins you buy poses, so you don't spend your exp so you can level up faster (also exp system needs some tweaks). With this same gold coins you should be able to buy prem poses/items or even prem itself (being it a fair big amount, of course) this way you could close the gap between prem and non-prems. Also, players should be able to trade with this gold coins, for example to buy designs, pics, slaves, etc. (everything that goes into the market). I think the game should be fair for every player, and there's a lot of mechanics and tools that could be implemented to keep a perfect balance between a "free to play" game and a "pay to win" one. I always based this idea on Warframe currencies, I played that game for some years, and I just keep loving that economic system Tongue

https://www.polygon.com/2018/1/2/1683032...p-platinum here in this note you can read how it works (if no links are allowed just pm me and I'll edit it out). And this doesn't make prem less worthwhile, because to have prem poses/items you have to grind/farm for them, and having prem should make you capable of buying them directly with game dollars. And remember that ad for non-prems I mentioned before, that makes non-prems "more worthwhile" making the balance even, closing the non-prem/prem gap.

With the thing that you said "non-prems could have more", I agree, because this is a sex game, and they shouldn't limit your poses just because you didn't contribute to the game, that makes you wan't to quit because it's some sort of "pay to win" game where you are easily denied for not having "x prem pose" or just for not being prem (not actually saying that you wont get lucky, that depends on your charisma, ofc, but prems do have some advantage). In the last suggestions thread (#2) I mentioned to have a lot more poses and variety of poses/items (like a lot of new content) so players spend time grinding for new poses and items while they level up till they get to the level cap, and still have items to buy then, so you don't end with the stashed money mentioned before.

Anyways, thats all I have to say for today, and if you find some grammar issues, sorry it's 7am here and I still didn't sleep yet :/

Regards! And sorry for making the post too long Tongue
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